The rearrear and single axle carriers with main diff. You also need to take into consideration the bearing preload on the tapered roller bearings for the differential. As online life collides with real life, the truth starts to come together and the backlash is even more devastating than than anyone could have imagined. Land rover diff overhaul finally, setting up the backlash, zero end float and meshing test. Ensure that the plates rest squarely on the differential machined surface and the end bars butt against the edges of the casing.
The forwardrear carriers with pump now have an internal pump that is also used on the 145 and 160 family axles. Now the diff is just the standard open center for the e series. Mgb differential clunk removal april 19, 2003 naperville, il well, guys. Diff crown wheel pinion setting jig page 1 suspension. Bearing pullers, dial indicators, brass punches, spanner wrenches. The weakest part of the rover diff is the 2 pinion centre.
Discussion in defender 90 110 started by jolly77, jun 29, 2008. Jan 11, 2015 to a portion, it is trial and error, but typically, lets say you have 0. My eb has a shirtload of backlash in the diff and at slow speeds this is a bit annoying as you can feel it take up and somewhat bunnyhop. The rear salisbury axle has dry half shafts maxi at the flanges, flogged on the long side. Dropping the diff ratios salisbury nicks land rover. Now its time to checking locking diffs, such as lsds. The book at times almost made me angry with the characters with what they would saydo. Thriftbooks sells millions of used books at the lowest everyday prices. If you have never set up a rearend, used a case spreader, used a dial indicator or a pinion depth gauge, you have no business tackling this dana 44 salisbury differential. Tips for assessing the differential mg mgb technical mg. Dropping the diff ratios salisbury may 4, 20 by nick 3 comments though the 3. Pinion depth how close the pinion is to the ring gear, backlash how. Mgb differential clunk removal chicagoland mg club. The salisbury axle has a backlash about 56 mm when you turn the prop, before the halfshafts turn.
Differential side gear backlash measurement youtube. The salisbury is heavy and you loose ground clearance. If my memory serves correctly, and the difference i saw was the telltale sign, the salisbury version has the cast torque tube. This results in a loud clunk on start, stop, backing up, or even just a change of. Ring gear tooth profile there are two types of gears which. The salisbury is a darna design, it got its name from the brithish armys testing ground on salisbury plain in the uk. Jul 20, 2015 i am concerned that the diff will be scrap now though, due to the open ends. Major assembly differences such as oil pumps, main diff. Rear salisbury axles came in on the 109 with the advent of the series 3, but, being the 1970s and being land rover i dare say it aint that simple at the actual point of change one way of identifying which axle you have, if it is off the vehicle, try lifting it up on your own.
This diff can be preloaded, which means you add clutches near the wheel axles to keep them rotating at the same velocity. When setting the pinion bearing preload on a crush sleeve design differential, it is. They dropped the salisbury in favour of the newer four pin diff which has proved itself to be very reliable. These affect the amount of limiting of slippage as torque is applied. Here im focusing on a salisbury diff as used in grand prix legends. The transmission case has not been separated so i should not need to reset pinion depth. I found myself at times putting it down and not wanting to pick it up, but then other times i never wanted to put down. Salisbury diff s what ratios i currently have a lsd 3.
The procedures described within this manual should enable experienced service personnel to strip, repair and rebuild salisbury 5ha series axles fitted to winget site dumpers in a safe and competent manner. The salisbury differential is stronger than a rover differential, but as far as i can tell there is practically no benefit so far as half shafts and cv strength goes. You also need to take into consideration the bearing preload on. Land rover differentials rover salisbury env diffs for. Salisbury diff sunplanet gear play advice required. From 19761985, the differential was a salisbury 4hu powrlok that came with either 3. We personally assess every books quality and offer rare, outofprint treasures. This video demonstrates how to measure differential pinion to ring gear backlash.
Nov 20, 2012 how to rebuild your rear axle and limited slip differential book bearingkits. The axle modelscarriersfeatures chart inside this front cover lists all the variations of the carriers covered in this book. Salisbury has been used to refer both to axles provided by the salisbury company, and to a particular design of axle, the principal feature being that the bearings supporting the crown wheel and pinion assembly are bolted to the axle housing, meaning that this assembly has to be withdrawn from the rear of the axle housing rather than the front. A common problem for the mgb with salisbury tube type axle is too much freeplay backlash at the input shaft caused by worn thrust. Generally, if the diff is operating without a whine at all, the backlash betwen crown wheel and pinion is ok and any excessive lash at the wheel will be down to wear in the thrusts. Install cam unit and thrust washer into flange end of case. I have found out, that john craddock have all the parts listed on he. These adjustments only impact resistance to slippage when torque is being applied to the rear wheels by the engine or the brakes. If you have the diff on the bench, what you are looking for is any play in the centre differential gears. The author did a great job with the book, but i am sill undecided about if i like the. Land rover diff overhaul finally, setting up the backlash, zero. Ring gear tooth profile there are two types of gears.
For an off roader the salisbury will reduce ground clearance and the shorter prop will mean less downwards travel available. This will ensure that your backlash is correct without having to swap the shims. Tighten the adjusting nuts by hand only, until all slack is. Some books give exact specifications of how much preload to add to the. A removable cover at the rear, gives access to the final drive components. May 04, 20 dropping the diff ratios salisbury may 4, 20 by nick 3 comments though the 3. Rear differential one ten usingaxle compressor gkn 1 16. The salisbury diff is much larger than the rover unit. How to rebuild your rear axle and limited slip differential book bearingkits. Does all salisbury axles have 24 spline halfshafts. I readjusted and measured the backlash without the passenger side oring and finally got it set, then removed the passside to reinstall the oring and turned it an additional 1. Backlash by sara darer littman is a lesserknown contemporary fiction novel that centers around the dangers that.
Nov, 2012 now its time to checking locking diffs, such as lsds. Weber state university automotive technology department transmission lab measuring transaxle front differential side gear backlash on. Im in the process of sticking in an arb air locker to my salisbury. Speedway motors employees enjoy not only helping our customers, but also turning some wrenches in their downtime as well. Hill theme setting i think the author was trying to explain how bad cyberbullying is and how it affects people. West coast differentials stocks a complete line of light duty axle parts for chevrolet, chrysler, dana, ford, gm, jeep and toyota and more.
So far so good, followed the lr service book on pinion height, rotation torque for pinon, and arb install book on the the spacers for the diff. How to rebuild your rear axle and limited slip differential book. Options would be 1 a second hand stage one axel rear as rocking. I have read and reread both the 5mt and 6mt procedures from the fsm a ridiculous number of times.
In salisbury axles, the carrier is integral with the axle housing. We use a toyota differential as an example but this procedure can be applied to any differential. Salisbury diffs what ratios i currently have a lsd 3. As with most things on stage one the rear axel is a bit of a hybrid, its a standard series salisbury axel but with a 3. Well known automotive writer jim allen and differential guru randy lyman, of randys ring and pinion, teamed up to create a stunningly complete book. Place the tool on to the differential casing, as illustrated, with the weld seam uppermost. The crown wheel is held in the carrier in a similar manner to the removable carrier type, but shims between the housing and the differential case bearings, allow the preload setting and backlash to be adjusted. A common problem for the mgb with salisbury tube type axle is too much freeplay backlash at the input shaft caused by worn thrust washers in the differential. The backlash or play amounts to about 40 degrees on propshaft flange or about 30 degrees with one rear wheel off the ground with handbrake on.
Tips for assessing the differential mg mgb technical. Differential tools are necessary for anyone working with ring and pinion setups, whether it is an experienced professional or the diy enthusiast. To a portion, it is trial and error, but typically, lets say you have 0. Differential installation instructions including tool list, disassembly, inspection, assembly, and more from the experts at west coast differentials. Feb 23, 2007 rear salisbury axles came in on the 109 with the advent of the series 3, but, being the 1970s and being land rover i dare say it aint that simple at the actual point of change one way of identifying which axle you have, if it is off the vehicle, try lifting it up on your own. As an added reference, speedway motors also offers a great book from. On the sal it is more of a torque arm, whereas i noticed that on the original diff from my tx the torque tube was more like a steel tube, round pipe if you like. These gears are the same as banjo diff gears, so the old hkhthg 2. How to set differential backlash may 11, 2012 this tech tip will speak specifically to setting up the differential, and specifically the back lash, in a midget converting to 3. Zach got enlisted by a friend to help rebuild the 7. I also think she was trying to tell how it can affect a persons life and even take away a persons life. The salisbury diff provides ramp angles for the power side and the coast side. I changed the pinion bearings at the same time as they were not feeling so good.
The diff casing is salisbury 4ha from a scimitar, the internals being fitted are jag powerlok and apparently to set the pinion shims right you fir the cwp set into a jig, measure etc etc. Differential installation instructions west coast differentials. The forwardrear carriers also now have a screwin type i. If there is, you should renew the thrust washers behind them. A 12 bolt salisbury is a much stronger diff than a rover bandjo diff. Sunluway 6602 differential bearing preload wrench for chryslerdodge vehicles with 714, 814, 834, and 914 rear axles, replacement for miller c4164. Book includes information about limited slip diff types and how. Bill, ther eis a whole chapter about that in the service manual, so it would make for a very longer answer on here.
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